Saturday, February 19, 2022

33rd Fieldwork Trip - 16th February 2022 - Culverts , Bridges & Progress

On Wednesday , 16th February 2022 , Togher Historical Association took to the road for the first time since September of 2021 to record the progress of the ongoing culvert works on Togher Road.  The immediate and stark changes which presented themselves was the filling in of the Gully by Greenwood Estate next to the Garage and the removal of the old stone wall completely. ( There is a raised surface now present which may accommodate street furniture and a lower hardcore base for a new pedestrian walkway ). Coupled with that was the culverting of the section of stream by Togher Cross and the disappearance of the old beveled stone wall and the cutting down of the trees which lined its banks. The last two sections of stream to remain daylighted since the 1840s was now erased from history and from sight. Liberty Stream a.k.a. Togher Stream is now no longer visible from Togher Cross to Coffey's Field. The New Culvert which has its beginnings alongside the old Southern Fruit Industrial Estate is a mind blowing 4 Metres Wide by 4 Metres Deep and follows a largely linear trajectory from Togher Cross to the Community Centre where it makes a sharp turn to run along Coffey's Field. The section of New Culvert by Southern Fruit is still under construction and will alter the original Stream's flow there into the concrete channel which also has an overflow culvert to cater for sudden rises in water.



Old gully filled in near Garage
( looking North towards Greenwood Estate )


Old Gully across from School
( Looking back towards Garage )
 
 
Looking towards Togher Cross
( Lanes old cottage on corner )


View of Lanes cottage and garage
( Lehenaghmore Road side )



Side view of Lanes cottage and Garage
( Looking back from Lehenaghmore Road to Togher Cross )


Close up view of Lanes garage and covered stream


Alternate view of Lanes cottage and Garage
( Lehenaghmore Road looking towards Togher Cross )


Close up view of Lanes cottage


Location of New Culvert by Southern Fruit


Original Togher Stream next to Southern Fruit
( To be culverted into new concrete channel - see next photo )


Culvert section under construction next to Southern Fruit
( Overflow channel on right )


Interior shot of Overflow Channel


1980s Pipes next to Southern Fruit
( Originally daylighted near stream on Togher Cross )


The group next made its way to the rear of SuperValu for a look at a piece of hisstory hidden in plain sight. The area on view in the photos was once known as Minnie's Orchard and existed right up to the 1960s when the road facing walls were demolished to make way for the then new Togher Shopping Centre in 1968. The surviving walls are encircled by Earlwood Estate which was built between 1958 and 1962.


Original stone wall to rear of SuperValu


Old stone wall to rear of Earlwood Estate


A spot check was made on some of Togher's remaining historical houses on Togher Road and Pouladuff Road. First on the list was a visit to the two storey semi-detached house on Ardmanning Hill which features in the famous harvest photograph from the 1950s. Research is still ongoing with it presently being thought to be Russell's dairy farm. However this has not conclusively been determined. Pouladuff Road beckoned for a brief look at 3 houses which stood before any modern development pre-1960s. The Laurels which is currently for sale with rumours that it is to be demolished to make way for new builds. The house is over 200 years old and is in private ownership. Next on the right hand side past Edward Walsh Road moving south was Bellvue House , an old two storey build and finally an old cottage. Research again is underway to unearth their past.


Russell's Dairy Farm? Ardmanning Hill


The Laurels , Pouladuff Road


Bellvue House , Pouladuff Road


Old cottage , Pouladuff Road


Next stop was a visit up Lehenagh Beg to look at the old Kelly's cottage. The site has been sold and plans are underway to build 16 new houses. The old once more makes way for the new. Evidence that not only is Togher changing , but that it is changing beyond all recognition.


Planning application near roadside


Front view of cottage


Kathleen O'Keeffe , Togher Historical Association


Land to rear to consist of 16 new dwellings

Final visit of the day was to the old railway bridge in Mahers Lane. Hard to believe that trains once ran under it and even harder to believe that it was the first time the group had looked at it. Even harder to believe is the fact that Togher still has 5 railway bridges intact! All part of the old Cork Bandon line. These will be covered in a future article.


Maher's Lane railway bridge
( uphill from Maher's Lane )


Mahers railway bridge looking back towards St James Cemetery



Close up view of Mahers Lane bridge

Friday, January 7, 2022

Townlands - 11/15 - Chetwynd

Chetwynd - Cheat The Wind - 219 Acres
formally Baile an Ghiolláin - Ballyginnane


Chetwynd -  (Data from Townlands.ie )


This Townland is unique in that it is the only one to have completely lost its original name in favour of a foreign one. Chetwynd , from the Old Welsh - " Cheat The Wind " - was the name imposed on it as of 1750 when the new landowners cruelly and arrogantly disposed of the older name. Its correct and ancient name was Baile an Ghiolláin or Ballingillan as noted by the Down Survey of 1658. The original name would have referred to the Ginnane family and the townland as being their home , as it predates the Norman Invasion of 1170. The possibility exists that the Ring Fort located in the Townland off Lios Cross may even have been their home. However by the time of the Cromwellian Confiscations of the 1650s we find the Ronaynes dispossessed and the Townland handed over to the Piggotts. It had a succession of tenants down through the years but finally in 1950 the Sweetnam family bought the property and land outright and still farm there today.


Chetwynd House 2014

Chetwynd had 2 big houses with the same name , one fronting onto Spur Hill ( Sweetnams as of 1950 ) acting as a farmhouse with another located on Meaghers Lane off Mahers Lane. Sadly this was demolished in 2018 with just its outbuildings remaining. It is perhaps most famous for the Chetwynd Viaduct , half of which is located inside its boundary. An original overbridge still exists on Mahers Lane. Chetwynd now plays host to the parish Cemetery , St. James.  Many private builds are located around the Townland most predominantly on Mahers Lane.


Chetwynd Viaduct 2014


Chetwynd has two internal streams which both join up with the Glasheen River and one which originates in Knocknamallavoge and flows on to turn west towards the Glasheen River near the viaduct. The Cork Bandon railway line once ran through the Townland and this is thankfully still evident by the presence of the two previously mentioned structures. The sport of bowling is famously connected with the Chetwynd Viaduct with Mick Barry " lofting the viaduct " in 1955. N.B.* - The Townlands southern boundary appears to have been moved several times since the 1840s which leaves the ring fort outside its borders. However the Blog will treat the original boundary in favour of the ring fort being in Chetwynd.

Chetwynd Townland Map - OSi 1840s


Addresses ( Modern Era )


Mahers Lane ( various private builds )
Meaghers Lane ( various private builds )
Viaduct Bar
Sweetnams Farm( Chetwynd House )
Chetwynd Viaduct

St. James Cemetery


Addresses/Structures ( Historical Era )

Ring Fort
Chetwynd House ( Demolished 2018 )
Chetwynd Viaduct ( Still extant )
Bandon Railway Line ( removed )
Mahers Lane overbridge ( still extant )

Water Pump ( still in situ )

Boundary ( shown in red on map )


From a point on the Bandon Road turning east to the rear of St. James cemetery cross country to emerge on Spur Hill by the water pump. Moving southwards along Spur Hill before turning west after the old Hegarty Sisters derelict cottage moving cross country to emerge once more on the Bandon Road just before the Viaduct Bar to follow the Glasheen Stream to the point started from.

Chetwynd ( Satellite View )



Wednesday, December 15, 2021

Townlands - 10/15 - Garrane Darragh

 Garrán Darach - Grove Of Oaks - 169 Acres

Garrane Darragh - ( Data from Townlands.ie )


Garrane Darragh as a Townland is perhaps one of the most mysterious of the group of 15 which comprise Togher. It seems to refuse to give up its ghostly past and secrets. However , closer examination of this area reveals that it once hosted 2 ring forts which in and of itself means ancient habitation. Sadly one of the ring forts has since the 19th Century been subsumed by agriculture and completely removed. One other possibly still exists to the rear of Bishopscourt Shopping Centre. Historically it was the abode of the Right Honourable Mr. Carey as shown by George Taylor and Andrew Skinner's "Maps of the Roads of Ireland", as Surveyed during 1777. It would seem that the entirety of the Townland was in the hands of same for many years. The 1911 Census shows the Barrett , O'Driscoll and Brien families as tenants on the farmland of the Careys.

Taylor & Skinner Road Map 1777


However bridging the gap in the ownership was a Mr. O'Leary who farmed the land until quite recently when it fell into receivership and lies in limbo. The outhouses are demolished whilst the big house is now boarded up. It would seem that the Townland was one massive farm used primarily for dairy farming. The Cork Bandon railway line once ran through the Townland and much of its former track can still be seen today ( see aerial photo below ). Today , part of Eagle Valley , Woodhaven and Garrane Dara makes up a portion of its Northern region with the Western portion of Doughcloyne Industrial Estate. The rest of the Townland is largely undeveloped.

Garrane Darragh House 2015
 

Remains of old Bandon Line ( semi circular arc )


Addresses ( Modern Era )

Woodhaven
South Ring Road ( portion )
Garrane Dara
Eagle Valley ( western portion )
Doughcloyne Industrial Estate ( western portion )
Garrane Darragh House ( Derelict )

 

Addresses/Structures ( Historical Era ) 

 
Garrane Darragh House ( Mr. Carey )
Tenant Farmers ( Barretts , O'Driscolls & Briens )
2 Ring Forts
Bandon Railway Line ( portion of )
Lodge ( Demolished )

 

Boundary

From a point on the western corner of Woodhaven following the Glasheen River in an easterly direction before taking a sharp turn across the South Ring Road and bisecting Doughcloyne Industrial Estate and Eagle Valley and moving south in an irregular fashion before turning westwards to the rear of St.James Cemetery crossing the Bandon Road briefly before moving again in a northerly direction following the Glasheen Stream and passing Bishopscourt Shopping Centre before ending at the point started from at Woodhaven.

Garrane Darragh ( Satellite View )

Sunday, November 28, 2021

Local Interviews - 10 - Trevor Welch & Noel Welch - Pirate Radio to Sport Broadcaster

On Wednesday evening 20th October 2021 , the Togher Historical Association met up with Sports Broadcaster Trevor Welch and his brother Noel Welch to uncover their family history in Togher going right back to the early 1960s and right up to the present. The Blog would like to sincerely thank both brothers for taking time out to share their stories and memories of Togher over the last 60 years and for highlighting the massive pool of local talent which has represented Togher on the International stage over the years! This meeting also saw the debut of the Historical Association's banner stand.

Noel Welch & Trevor Welch
October 2021

The Welch family story begins in the 1950s when Noel Welch snr. married Eileen Hayes in 1955. Previous to that Eileen lived with her siblings above Cudmore's on the corner of Winthrop Street and Patrick Street. Eileen was born in 1935 and remembers playing on Patrick's Street with her friends. She also recalls being able to see right into the Lee Cinema from their upstairs home. Noel Welch recounted : " It really was a case of all picture and no sound! They could plainly see every movie that played there but obviously couldn't hear the sound. " Trevor Welch stated : " They were the last of the families to live in the City Centre. " Eileen's family later relocated to Belgrave Place. Noel Welch snr. was born in Ballinlough in 1934. He worked for the Cork Examiner with his eldest son Noel joining the Echo many years later.

Eileen's home above Cudmore's overlooking Lee Cinema

The Welchs first settled in Mayfield before eventually moving to Rockgrove Tce on the Lower Road. The fledgling family initially consisted of  Noel and his two sisters Janet and Valerie. Noel : " It had a small front garden with a swing in it. " In his youth Noel would develop tonsillitis and recalls a traumatic experience in the Eye ,Ear & Throat hospital , sharing a room with patients with eye diseases and recalling the painful extraction of his tonsils. However all was to change when his Father came to visit him and announced that the family were moving to a brand new house in Togher. No.4 Edward Walsh Road was part of the new housing scheme then underway on former farmland in Togher at the time. They would name the house Rockgrove in honour of their old home on the Lower Road.

L-R: Hazel , Mrs Eileen Welch , Avril , Valerie ,
Noel , Sharon , Janet , Eileen & Trevor.

The family would soon expand with Trevor being the first to be born in Togher in 1965. Four more sisters would complete the family - Sharon , Hazel , Avril and Eileen. All children attended St. Mary's of the Isle and Sullivan's Quay a.k.a. Sullys ( a family tradition in education ) before the boys moved to Deer Park secondary school with the girls attending Maria Assumpta secondary school in Ballyphehane. Trevor : " I was being coaxed to go to Scoil Stiofain Naofa by my friends because apparently they had a great soccer team , but I followed in the footsteps of my father and uncles. "

L-R Back : Trevor , Janet , Hazel , Valerie & Noel.
L-R Front : Avril , Mrs. Eileen Welch , Eileen , & Sharon.

Noel relates that directly across from their home was a telephone box and this was used by locals to contact their children playing out in the area. The boys had the number of the box memorized and handed out to the neighbours who would then ring the box if they were looking for their children. Noel added that passersby would invariably answer the phone if it rang and the caller was usually a parent inquiring as to the whereabouts of their kids. It was essentially a precursor to a private mobile phone! Noel also added that later on in life they would ring the box and hopefully when somebody answered it , they would cheekily ask them to call a family member from No.4 in the process using it as a private phone to contact home!

No.4 Edward Walsh Road , Togher

Noel moved out of the family home when he was 12 to live with his Grandmother on Wellington Road and mentions that most of his friends are actually from the Coburg Street / Wellington Road area. However he maintained strong links to Togher. Previous to moving out and starting work , Noel remembers playing soccer on the streets and being close friends with Michael , son of the shop-owners Kellehers , now the Post Office. They would play games including Subbuteo and almost never watched T.V.

Noel in cowboy outfit at back door of house circa late 1960s


Noel at back door of house in St. John's Ambulance uniform

Both Noel and Trevor recall that after school , it was a case of getting the homework done as fast as possible before heading out to playing 7 a side with other local boys. It was like a whistle going off which saw the houses literally empty of boys to form small teams up and down the road. The fact that there was very little traffic facilitated the safe passage of play for all concerned.

Trevor outside back door circa early 1970s

Trevor : " There were loads of young fellas my own age and we would play gate to gate soccer ; street leagues etc , until last light or last goal as we termed it. I was in love with sport and soccer in particular. I remember bringing the ball to bed with me and my Mother clattering me around the ears to take the ball off me. I can still feel the ringing in my ears! "

Noel sorting his record collection playlist
 
 
Noel at the mixing deck

 

Trevor and Noel in the studio

Trevor: " I always say , where you grew up shapes you. We're very lucky in Togher , with the Barrs on our doorstep. Sport was a lifeline for many including me. I played with Togher Rovers for a season. Togher produced some great sportsmen  ; Brian Carey , Denis Irwin and Rob Heffernan to name but a few and of course the wonderful singer Sinead Lohan from Greenwood Estate. Sport and music were my two great loves. As kids , the lads from Edward Walsh Road would meet up with Patrick O'Donoghue Place and Marieville and play matches over by the old V.G. Shopping Centre. Edward Walsh Road were seen as the team to beat. I played with Kilreen Celtic U10's when I was only 8! We even traveled to London and Manchester for games. Donal Kelleher was the coach and he's still involved to this day. Another pastime was going out the roads to slog apples and listening to Larry Gogan's Top 40 on the radio over by the Lough. " Trevor and Noel both related how they worked , like many others in Togher , for Dawson's Newsagents delivering the papers around the area.

Noel Welch with his father Mr. Noel Welch snr.

Noel : " My Father had an aviary in a shed in our back garden where he bred canaries and finches. He was always proud of the fact that people would come from as far away as Gurranabraher to purchase the birds. He was a member of the Cork Cagebirds Society with the birdshows being hosted in Sullivan's Quay. He won many times with the winner having a rosette attached to their cages. Later on my Father became a judge himself. "

Noel & Trevor Welch with fellow Togher legend Denis Irwin

Trevor : " As a child I used to go into the alleyway by our house with a ruler and do mock sports commentaries. The acoustics were very good in there! 1977 would have been my first mock commentary. The match was Manchester United vs Liverpool and ironically I would go on to actually commentate on a Man Utd vs Liverpool match in a professional capacity many years later! "

Trevor and Noel with their mother Mrs. Eileen Welch

1978 was to be the turning point in the Welch boys lives , first with Noel and later with Trevor. At the time Noel was working in the Echo when he came across an ad which was to transform his life. However the owners of the paper , the Crosby family , frowned upon the then newly emerging Pirate Radio stations. To combat this the budding D.J.s used cover names to hide their own names. Invariably many changed their accents as well to camouflage their true identities. Noel wanted something to reflect his own name and looked for something " Welsh sounding " ; Jones and Evans went onto the shortlist ( including Noel Edmonds ), with the result that he became Noel Evans. Within a couple of days of submitting his audition tape in March he was on air on C.B.C ( Cork Broadcasting Company ) , just one of a plethora of unofficial radio stations coming on air at the time. They initially began broadcasting from a flat across from the Country Club in Montenotte but thereafter moved to several other venues over the course of several months. Trevor says : " I remember telling mates at school in Deer Park that Noel Evans on the radio was my brother. Of course nobody believed me! " Noel would compile playlists and voiceovers at home and it was there that Trevor caught the bug. Trevor : " It was 1983 , I remember Noel with his Ford Capri and playing at Discos in the Ardmanning Pub and I thought this was all magical. My first love was to be a professional footballer but Music was my second love. "

 

Cork Broadcasting Company logo
© DXArchives.ie

Noel would help Trevor to do a tape for Micky Daly ( his father Michael being one of the founders of Togher A.C. ) who lived in the timber cottage next to the Deanrock Bar ( the house now long gone and replaced by the motorway ). The name of the radio station run by Micky Daly was Radio Caroline. Trevor recalls how he used to listen to it on his radio and was amazed to find out that the station was based in Togher in a caravan! Trevor cycled down to the cottage and handed in the tape and told to come back in a week for approval. With that he was accepted and asked if he could start the following Saturday! He created a new show called " Hit Or Miss " in which he would predict a records popularity or decline. Mrs. Daly would drop by the caravan with custard creams and tea. Trevor mentions Paul Byrne , P.J. Coogan and others as having their start in the caravan. He also recalls a fellow Togher man - Ken Tobin - as having his apprenticeship there as well. One amazing story which Trevor recalls involved the brother of famous U.K. based D.J. Kid Jensen whose brother Scott Jensen was starting soon at the Caravan. The problem was that Trevor was using the alias of Scott Jensen! About a year in to his time at Radio Caroline , Trevor heard of the relaunch of South Coast Radio by fellow Togher man Michael O'Brien. Most of the D.J.s at Radio Caroline had already jumped ship to the new station. Trevor felt honour bound to Micky Daly but soon gathered up the courage to inform his boss that he was leaving too. So it was that by 1985 Trevor was now with South Coast Radio. At this point , Trevor recalled even pre-Radio Caroline days in Togher and mentioned how the Quilligan family in Togher Square had a radio station in their back yard circa 1981!

South Coast Radio logo
© DXArchive.ie


However all good things must come to an end and so it was with Pirate Radio effectively ending in 1989. 26 years later in 2015 Trevor and Noel would document Pirate Radio days in their book - The Jolly Roger which covered the history of the pirate stations in Cork from their inception to their eventual demise. Togher Historical Association were invited to the book launch which can be viewed by clicking the link here  

 

The Jolly Roger
Written by Trevor & Noel Welch

It was about this time at the close of the 1980s that Noel Welch became tied in with the Togher Community Association and was hired to do a lot of their M.C. work in the Ardmanning with John Russell and Tom O'Sullivan. Tom O'Sullivan had previously worked with Noel on the printing in The Echo. Noel would go on to compere at most of the Togher Community Roses as well as host the Glamorous Grandmothers and Karaoke competitions. He also reflected on the Ardmanning as a fantastic venue with the Colonel's Lounge and the Lake Room. Noel thinks that the owner Seamus O'Brien who later sold the Ardmanning moved to England where he had other businesses. By the early 1990s Noel was still working in The Echo , where his Father and Uncle Tony also worked , his father and Grandfather having previously worked for Guy's Printing  ( now Waterstones ).

Trevor at Cork Multi Channel T.V.
© balls.ie


Trevor next related how his tenure at South Coast Radio lasted from 1985 to 1988. However a new medium arrived in Cork City which attracted all the local talent - Cork Multi Channel T.V. Paul Byrne had informed Trevor that they were looking for a Sports Presenter. Micky Mac held the interview with Trevor who had long hair at the time. A condition of procuring the job was that the long hair had to go! So it was that Trevor was with Cork Multi Channel from 1988 to 1998. Trevor recalls the sheer output from a shoestring budget where he went on to interview 14 World Champions from many different sports. He covered all the League of Ireland games including interviewing Steve Collins and Jack Charlton. Stephen Roche and Sean Kelly and Steve Davis were just some of his famous interviews. Trevor's stint at Cork Multi Channel as their Sports Anchor saw him involved in compiling the running order , writing scripts and even the ads. He mentions that it was a great grounding for him as a broadcaster. One of his many memories from his time there was going out to Russia in 1989 to commentate on Cork City's first away match. He was literally only in the door as he says himself. Trevor recalls how he persuaded the station owner that Cork Multi Channel should be up there with the bigger Stations such as RTE. He then went off to Russia with the owners 2 sons who were also cameramen. His last job with Cork Multi Channel was covering the Tour de France before leaving for TV3 in 1998. His previous experience had stood to him and he became Sports Anchor for TV3 , Ireland's first independent T.V. station. In 2017 , Richard Branson bought TV3 and the following year rebranded the station as Virgin Media 1 . 2 and 3. Trevor currently works freelance and continues to cover sport for the major Irish T.V. stations.

Noel & Trevor with Kathleen O'Keeffe
Togher Historical Association


Noel & Trevor with Billy O'Brien
Togher Historical Association


Trevor : " I don't think Togher gets the credit it deserves. Its huge when it comes to Sports and Music. There's a lot of talent here. " Noel mentioned how his son David even though he didn't live in Togher played with Everton for many years maintaining the link with the families home turf. Trevor recalled how the family home was full of music and records , with their Mother singing as well as their next door neighbour Paul O'Leary ( his son played with the Barrs ) who was a professional singer and had released traditional music albums. He repeated how sport and music was all around him in Togher and how this helped shape his life and career. The interview finished and Noel and Trevor departed to visit their Mother at No. 4 Edward Walsh Road.