Sunday, November 28, 2021

Local Interviews - 10 - Trevor Welch & Noel Welch - Pirate Radio to Sport Broadcaster

On Wednesday evening 20th October 2021 , the Togher Historical Association met up with Sports Broadcaster Trevor Welch and his brother Noel Welch to uncover their family history in Togher going right back to the early 1960s and right up to the present. The Blog would like to sincerely thank both brothers for taking time out to share their stories and memories of Togher over the last 60 years and for highlighting the massive pool of local talent which has represented Togher on the International stage over the years! This meeting also saw the debut of the Historical Association's banner stand.

Noel Welch & Trevor Welch
October 2021

The Welch family story begins in the 1950s when Noel Welch snr. married Eileen Hayes in 1955. Previous to that Eileen lived with her siblings above Cudmore's on the corner of Winthrop Street and Patrick Street. Eileen was born in 1935 and remembers playing on Patrick's Street with her friends. She also recalls being able to see right into the Lee Cinema from their upstairs home. Noel Welch recounted : " It really was a case of all picture and no sound! They could plainly see every movie that played there but obviously couldn't hear the sound. " Trevor Welch stated : " They were the last of the families to live in the City Centre. " Eileen's family later relocated to Belgrave Place. Noel Welch snr. was born in Ballinlough in 1934. He worked for the Cork Examiner with his eldest son Noel joining the Echo many years later.

Eileen's home above Cudmore's overlooking Lee Cinema

The Welchs first settled in Mayfield before eventually moving to Rockgrove Tce on the Lower Road. The fledgling family initially consisted of  Noel and his two sisters Janet and Valerie. Noel : " It had a small front garden with a swing in it. " In his youth Noel would develop tonsillitis and recalls a traumatic experience in the Eye ,Ear & Throat hospital , sharing a room with patients with eye diseases and recalling the painful extraction of his tonsils. However all was to change when his Father came to visit him and announced that the family were moving to a brand new house in Togher. No.4 Edward Walsh Road was part of the new housing scheme then underway on former farmland in Togher at the time. They would name the house Rockgrove in honour of their old home on the Lower Road.

L-R: Hazel , Mrs Eileen Welch , Avril , Valerie ,
Noel , Sharon , Janet , Eileen & Trevor.

The family would soon expand with Trevor being the first to be born in Togher in 1965. Four more sisters would complete the family - Sharon , Hazel , Avril and Eileen. All children attended St. Mary's of the Isle and Sullivan's Quay a.k.a. Sullys ( a family tradition in education ) before the boys moved to Deer Park secondary school with the girls attending Maria Assumpta secondary school in Ballyphehane. Trevor : " I was being coaxed to go to Scoil Stiofain Naofa by my friends because apparently they had a great soccer team , but I followed in the footsteps of my father and uncles. "

L-R Back : Trevor , Janet , Hazel , Valerie & Noel.
L-R Front : Avril , Mrs. Eileen Welch , Eileen , & Sharon.

Noel relates that directly across from their home was a telephone box and this was used by locals to contact their children playing out in the area. The boys had the number of the box memorized and handed out to the neighbours who would then ring the box if they were looking for their children. Noel added that passersby would invariably answer the phone if it rang and the caller was usually a parent inquiring as to the whereabouts of their kids. It was essentially a precursor to a private mobile phone! Noel also added that later on in life they would ring the box and hopefully when somebody answered it , they would cheekily ask them to call a family member from No.4 in the process using it as a private phone to contact home!

No.4 Edward Walsh Road , Togher

Noel moved out of the family home when he was 12 to live with his Grandmother on Wellington Road and mentions that most of his friends are actually from the Coburg Street / Wellington Road area. However he maintained strong links to Togher. Previous to moving out and starting work , Noel remembers playing soccer on the streets and being close friends with Michael , son of the shop-owners Kellehers , now the Post Office. They would play games including Subbuteo and almost never watched T.V.

Noel in cowboy outfit at back door of house circa late 1960s


Noel at back door of house in St. John's Ambulance uniform

Both Noel and Trevor recall that after school , it was a case of getting the homework done as fast as possible before heading out to playing 7 a side with other local boys. It was like a whistle going off which saw the houses literally empty of boys to form small teams up and down the road. The fact that there was very little traffic facilitated the safe passage of play for all concerned.

Trevor outside back door circa early 1970s

Trevor : " There were loads of young fellas my own age and we would play gate to gate soccer ; street leagues etc , until last light or last goal as we termed it. I was in love with sport and soccer in particular. I remember bringing the ball to bed with me and my Mother clattering me around the ears to take the ball off me. I can still feel the ringing in my ears! "

Noel sorting his record collection playlist
 
 
Noel at the mixing deck

 

Trevor and Noel in the studio

Trevor: " I always say , where you grew up shapes you. We're very lucky in Togher , with the Barrs on our doorstep. Sport was a lifeline for many including me. I played with Togher Rovers for a season. Togher produced some great sportsmen  ; Brian Carey , Denis Irwin and Rob Heffernan to name but a few and of course the wonderful singer Sinead Lohan from Greenwood Estate. Sport and music were my two great loves. As kids , the lads from Edward Walsh Road would meet up with Patrick O'Donoghue Place and Marieville and play matches over by the old V.G. Shopping Centre. Edward Walsh Road were seen as the team to beat. I played with Kilreen Celtic U10's when I was only 8! We even traveled to London and Manchester for games. Donal Kelleher was the coach and he's still involved to this day. Another pastime was going out the roads to slog apples and listening to Larry Gogan's Top 40 on the radio over by the Lough. " Trevor and Noel both related how they worked , like many others in Togher , for Dawson's Newsagents delivering the papers around the area.

Noel Welch with his father Mr. Noel Welch snr.

Noel : " My Father had an aviary in a shed in our back garden where he bred canaries and finches. He was always proud of the fact that people would come from as far away as Gurranabraher to purchase the birds. He was a member of the Cork Cagebirds Society with the birdshows being hosted in Sullivan's Quay. He won many times with the winner having a rosette attached to their cages. Later on my Father became a judge himself. "

Noel & Trevor Welch with fellow Togher legend Denis Irwin

Trevor : " As a child I used to go into the alleyway by our house with a ruler and do mock sports commentaries. The acoustics were very good in there! 1977 would have been my first mock commentary. The match was Manchester United vs Liverpool and ironically I would go on to actually commentate on a Man Utd vs Liverpool match in a professional capacity many years later! "

Trevor and Noel with their mother Mrs. Eileen Welch

1978 was to be the turning point in the Welch boys lives , first with Noel and later with Trevor. At the time Noel was working in the Echo when he came across an ad which was to transform his life. However the owners of the paper , the Crosby family , frowned upon the then newly emerging Pirate Radio stations. To combat this the budding D.J.s used cover names to hide their own names. Invariably many changed their accents as well to camouflage their true identities. Noel wanted something to reflect his own name and looked for something " Welsh sounding " ; Jones and Evans went onto the shortlist ( including Noel Edmonds ), with the result that he became Noel Evans. Within a couple of days of submitting his audition tape in March he was on air on C.B.C ( Cork Broadcasting Company ) , just one of a plethora of unofficial radio stations coming on air at the time. They initially began broadcasting from a flat across from the Country Club in Montenotte but thereafter moved to several other venues over the course of several months. Trevor says : " I remember telling mates at school in Deer Park that Noel Evans on the radio was my brother. Of course nobody believed me! " Noel would compile playlists and voiceovers at home and it was there that Trevor caught the bug. Trevor : " It was 1983 , I remember Noel with his Ford Capri and playing at Discos in the Ardmanning Pub and I thought this was all magical. My first love was to be a professional footballer but Music was my second love. "

 

Cork Broadcasting Company logo
© DXArchives.ie

Noel would help Trevor to do a tape for Micky Daly ( his father Michael being one of the founders of Togher A.C. ) who lived in the timber cottage next to the Deanrock Bar ( the house now long gone and replaced by the motorway ). The name of the radio station run by Micky Daly was Radio Caroline. Trevor recalls how he used to listen to it on his radio and was amazed to find out that the station was based in Togher in a caravan! Trevor cycled down to the cottage and handed in the tape and told to come back in a week for approval. With that he was accepted and asked if he could start the following Saturday! He created a new show called " Hit Or Miss " in which he would predict a records popularity or decline. Mrs. Daly would drop by the caravan with custard creams and tea. Trevor mentions Paul Byrne , P.J. Coogan and others as having their start in the caravan. He also recalls a fellow Togher man - Ken Tobin - as having his apprenticeship there as well. One amazing story which Trevor recalls involved the brother of famous U.K. based D.J. Kid Jensen whose brother Scott Jensen was starting soon at the Caravan. The problem was that Trevor was using the alias of Scott Jensen! About a year in to his time at Radio Caroline , Trevor heard of the relaunch of South Coast Radio by fellow Togher man Michael O'Brien. Most of the D.J.s at Radio Caroline had already jumped ship to the new station. Trevor felt honour bound to Micky Daly but soon gathered up the courage to inform his boss that he was leaving too. So it was that by 1985 Trevor was now with South Coast Radio. At this point , Trevor recalled even pre-Radio Caroline days in Togher and mentioned how the Quilligan family in Togher Square had a radio station in their back yard circa 1981!

South Coast Radio logo
© DXArchive.ie


However all good things must come to an end and so it was with Pirate Radio effectively ending in 1989. 26 years later in 2015 Trevor and Noel would document Pirate Radio days in their book - The Jolly Roger which covered the history of the pirate stations in Cork from their inception to their eventual demise. Togher Historical Association were invited to the book launch which can be viewed by clicking the link here  

 

The Jolly Roger
Written by Trevor & Noel Welch

It was about this time at the close of the 1980s that Noel Welch became tied in with the Togher Community Association and was hired to do a lot of their M.C. work in the Ardmanning with John Russell and Tom O'Sullivan. Tom O'Sullivan had previously worked with Noel on the printing in The Echo. Noel would go on to compere at most of the Togher Community Roses as well as host the Glamorous Grandmothers and Karaoke competitions. He also reflected on the Ardmanning as a fantastic venue with the Colonel's Lounge and the Lake Room. Noel thinks that the owner Seamus O'Brien who later sold the Ardmanning moved to England where he had other businesses. By the early 1990s Noel was still working in The Echo , where his Father and Uncle Tony also worked , his father and Grandfather having previously worked for Guy's Printing  ( now Waterstones ).

Trevor at Cork Multi Channel T.V.
© balls.ie


Trevor next related how his tenure at South Coast Radio lasted from 1985 to 1988. However a new medium arrived in Cork City which attracted all the local talent - Cork Multi Channel T.V. Paul Byrne had informed Trevor that they were looking for a Sports Presenter. Micky Mac held the interview with Trevor who had long hair at the time. A condition of procuring the job was that the long hair had to go! So it was that Trevor was with Cork Multi Channel from 1988 to 1998. Trevor recalls the sheer output from a shoestring budget where he went on to interview 14 World Champions from many different sports. He covered all the League of Ireland games including interviewing Steve Collins and Jack Charlton. Stephen Roche and Sean Kelly and Steve Davis were just some of his famous interviews. Trevor's stint at Cork Multi Channel as their Sports Anchor saw him involved in compiling the running order , writing scripts and even the ads. He mentions that it was a great grounding for him as a broadcaster. One of his many memories from his time there was going out to Russia in 1989 to commentate on Cork City's first away match. He was literally only in the door as he says himself. Trevor recalls how he persuaded the station owner that Cork Multi Channel should be up there with the bigger Stations such as RTE. He then went off to Russia with the owners 2 sons who were also cameramen. His last job with Cork Multi Channel was covering the Tour de France before leaving for TV3 in 1998. His previous experience had stood to him and he became Sports Anchor for TV3 , Ireland's first independent T.V. station. In 2017 , Richard Branson bought TV3 and the following year rebranded the station as Virgin Media 1 . 2 and 3. Trevor currently works freelance and continues to cover sport for the major Irish T.V. stations.

Noel & Trevor with Kathleen O'Keeffe
Togher Historical Association


Noel & Trevor with Billy O'Brien
Togher Historical Association


Trevor : " I don't think Togher gets the credit it deserves. Its huge when it comes to Sports and Music. There's a lot of talent here. " Noel mentioned how his son David even though he didn't live in Togher played with Everton for many years maintaining the link with the families home turf. Trevor recalled how the family home was full of music and records , with their Mother singing as well as their next door neighbour Paul O'Leary ( his son played with the Barrs ) who was a professional singer and had released traditional music albums. He repeated how sport and music was all around him in Togher and how this helped shape his life and career. The interview finished and Noel and Trevor departed to visit their Mother at No. 4 Edward Walsh Road.

Thursday, November 18, 2021

Lecture ~ S.M.A. Centre , Wilton - 14th November 2021


 S.M.A. Centre , Wilton

On Sunday 14th November 2021 at 3.00 p.m. the Togher Historical Association was invited to give a lecture on local history at the S.M.A. Centre in Wilton by Noel Welch. The main talk was given by Billy O'Brien and was a relaxed and casual affair. The audience was made up mostly of people from neighboring communities including Ballyphehane , Gurranabraher and Blackpool with representatives from Shandon , Blackpool and Marsh historical Societies. The purpose of the gathering was to introduce Togher's rich heritage to a diverse cross section of Cork City , both Southside and Northside. The whole affair served as the basis for a new Cork Southside Folklore Project as proposed by Noel Welch which would be in tandem with its Northside equivalent. It is hoped in time that other Southside based Societies and Associations dealing with local history from the Southside will come on board to share information and catalogue the rich heritage of the Southside of the City and nearby environs.


Banner stand and overhead projector
linked to laptop with presentation table


The afternoon was divided into 3 sections ; An introductory talk with slideshow and video , followed by an open floor Q&A and ending with a walk-through/talk-through of a photo filled blue-board plus photo albums for people to peruse at their leisure which was excellently handled by Kathleen O'Keeffe. It must be stated that the centre had excellent facilities with overhead projector onto a giant electronic screen and microphone if needed. The Lecture also saw the debut of Togher Historical Associations new Banner Stand ( see photo above ) which depicts all of its 15 Townlands.



Audience at S.M.A. lecture

The main talk was a whistle-stop snapshot of Togher history which began with an explanation of Togher's Townlands and a brief explanation of their meanings. It was mentioned that Togher has been inhabited for at least 2000 years with one of the few remaining Ring Forts in the area still intact. The Ring Fort was not only used to protect the residents but also to safeguard their cattle not only from raiders but also from Wolves which were so plentiful in Ireland at the time that the country was known as Wolfland ; the last wolf being killed in the 18th Century. It was stated that Togher was primarily made up of Dairy Farmers and Market Gardeners until compulsory Purchase of many acres of land in the 1960s to cater for local housing schemes which transformed Togher from an agricultural hinterland into a modern suburb. An honorable mention was made of Denis McCarthy who qualifies as Togher's last Market Gardener as he still tends to his families land on Togher Road. War of Independence local Heroes and Heroines were given special recognition ; John Joe Hegarty and his 2 Sisters - Mamie and Nan from The Laurels , Joe Murphy from Joe Murphy House both on Pouladuff Road and the Lane family from Togher Cross. Togher's boundary was briefly outlined.

Discussion and viewing of photo display


The floor was then opened for a Question and Answer session which tested the Speakers knowledge. Local Togher D.J. Roy Cronin wondered if people remembered the Green Box which was once sited near Togher Girls N.S. and also mentioned that he runs his Radio show from his bedroom! Others queried the dumping of the bodies of the last British Soldiers to be killed on the eve of the ending of the War Of Independence in Ellis Quarry near Togher. Still another question was asked of The Lough and how it was formed. One Lady asked if The Plots were known to those present and recalls the Hegarty family from her youth and remarked that she lives near one of the Hegarty sisters today. All questions were answered satisfactorily and ultimately lead to related questions. All in all , a lively conversation was engaged in which catered to all who attended. Local Historian from Ballyphehane , Liam O'Higgin was complimentary of the presentation and recalled how he as a youth used to travel out to Togher for Soccer matches with his boots tied around his neck.

Kathleen O'Keeffe explaining history behind photos


The event finished off with people viewing the photo display with Kathleen O'Keeffe answering all questions. Many photos were very rare and previously unseen and much appreciated by all present. Many one to one's were engaged in as people sought out more answers to their queries. Togher Historical Association then finished with a call out to all Historical groups in Cork City , both North and South to begin actively researching their districts and archiving their local history. It is hoped to present a more detailed talk in the new year based on the success of the pilot scheme. The Blog would like to thank Noel Welch and his Wife for their invaluable assistance and the loan of the Centre.

Kathleen O'Keeffe answering photo related questions


Sadly only a few of the people who attended were namechecked ; anybody else is kindly asked to submit their names if reading this article. Below are the names of just a few who attended. The Blog would like to sincerely thank everybody who turned up and hope to meet them again in the near future.

Noel Welch
Ann Cronin
Gerry McNamara
Dolores Welch
Roy Cronin
Mary McNamara
Teresa ???
Liam O'Higin


S.M.A. Entrance

Thursday, October 14, 2021

Townlands - 9/15 - Doughcloyne

Dúchluain - Black Meadow - 381 Acres
*1654-56 Tohir Meddow - " In Tld of Doughcloyne."

Doughcloyne - ( Data from Townlands.ie )

Historically , the Townland was in the possession of the De Cogan family possibly from the time of the Norman conquest in the 1170s. However in 1539 a branch of the Ronayne family purchased Doughcloyne where it remained until 1727 when it passed through marriage into the Sarsfield family who held it until 1947 when they sold all property and land to the S.M.A. The Sarsfields had three properties in Doughcloyne , all named after the Townland. All that remains of the first abode is a wall fronting onto the main road across from Chetwynd farmhouse. The second is the now Fellowship House , formally  Phillipine House which was built on the site of an earlier house dating back to 1640 and built by the Ronaynes. The third house is now the offices of Cork ARC Cancer Support services off Sarsfield Road. Other notable houses included Coventry House and Feirm Bawn. The Townland has lost some of its older residences over the last number of years including the original Phillipine House , Feirm Bawn ( replaced with a small estate with the same name ) and the Allen House. One interesting point to note from an historical perspective is the fork off Spur Hill known as Crossnacroha. This is an anglicisation of the original Irish name - Cros na Croiche - Cross of the Gallows. These gallows would possibly have been erected to hang insurgents during the Whiteboy disturbances of the late 1700s. The location is shared with the neighbouring Townland of Knocnamallavoge. Another famous location from the distant past was St. Bartholomew's Well. This was sited almost adjacent to the railway bridge but was capped when the Bandon line was being constructed. However a small streamlet is still evident which flows on towards the Liberty Stream. Three terraced cottages which fronted onto the main road near Feirm Bawn are reputed to date from Cromwellian times and were demolished in the modern era. The Townland also played host to a Forge which if legend has it , was visited by O'Neill during the Flight of the Earls. Doughcloyne also happens to have the last remaining original hand water pump which is situated outside the old Sexton House.

Sarsfield House 2022


Water pump as seen in 2017



Doughcloyne is the most elongated of all the Townlands tapering off to the south by Wilson's Lane at just under three miles. The Townland has thrown up two amazing legacies from the past ; in April 1993 , whilst work was underway of the Doughcloyne Roundabout , the remains of two Giant Irish Deer were found. These beasts roamed Togher 10,600 years ago feeding on grass and shrubs while fending off their only natural enemy wolves. When they died their bodies sank into the clay sediment of the land. This land in time became a lake and subsequently when the climate changed became a bog between 2000 B.C. and 1000 B.C. A Fulacht Fiadh was discovered near Phillipine House ( a.k.a. Fellowship House ) which was dated to 500 A.D. This proves human settlement in Togher of over 1500 years at the very least! One important point to note about Doughcloyne's North-Eastern boundary: Its northernmost  border followed the original course of the Liberty stream before it was diverted to run adjacent to the Togher Road. The Liberty stream would have originally flowed to the rear of the schools before forking left and right. The left course wound its way around the present day Westside Estate to join up with the Glasheen River with the right fork flowing under a stone bridge near the old school ( now Community Centre )

Feirm Bawn 1989
©Anne O'regan Fernandes


Addresses ( Modern Era )

Sandbrook
South Ring Road
Sarsfield Flyover & Roundabout
Sarsfield Road
Doughcloyne Industrial Estate
The Headlands
Richmond
Elmvale Court
Elmvale Close
Elmvale Avenue
Robinscourt
L'Arche
Spar Convenience Store
Westbury Court
Westbury Grove
Westbury Crescent
Sandown Crest
Centra Convenience Store
Dental Lodge
Lanes Cottage
Various Private Houses on Doughcloyne Hill
Clifton
Elm Park
J. O'Connor Funeral Home
Eagle Valley ( Upper Portion )
Brook Avenue
Forest Ridge Crescent
Forest Ridge
Fernwood Close
Fernwood
Feirm Bawn
Harley Court
Brentwood Court
White Oaks
White Oaks Mews
Westlawn
Sarsfield Heights ( Under Construction as of 2021 )
Togher Reservoir
Fellowship House
Various Private Residencies Towards Lios Cross ( Eastern Side )
Farmhouse & Farm



Addresses/Structures ( Historical Era )


Sarsfield Lodge ( now Dental Clinic )
Two Storey Pub ( now Lanes Cottage )
The Forge ( Demolished 1968 )
Coventry House ( Demolished 1950s )
Allen House ( Demolished 2018 )
Feirm Bawn ( Demolished 2015 )
Cottages ( in front of Feirm Bawn )
Phillipine House ( Demolished 2017 )
Doughcloyne House ( only wall fronting onto road remaining )
Upper Doughcloyne House ( now ARC Cancer Centre )
Lios Cross a.k.a. Crossnacroha
St Bartholomew's  Well
Doughcloyne Railway Bridge ( Still in existence )
Ben Deebles Lane ( renamed Wilson's Lane )
Sexton's House ( recently demolished )
Water Pump ( Only one remaining )


Boundary

Beginning at a point near the Glasheen River to the rear of St. Finbarrs H&F Club grounds and following an arc in a southwesterly direction across the South Ring Road and halfway around the rear of Westside Estate and then moving in a straight line to the rear of the schools, church , O'Connell Court and Centra before turning directly back to Togher Cross and following the Liberty Stream all the way up to a point where it diverges its border in an irregular pattern before finally meeting up with Wilson's Lane from where it turns back northwards to Lios Cross moving down Spur Hill before turning cross country to the rear of Togher Reservoir bisecting Eagle Valley and shaving the Doughcloyne Industrial Estate before meeting up with the Glasheen River and back to the point started from.

Saturday, September 25, 2021

32nd Fieldwork Trip - 25th September 2021 - Kilmurriheen & Togher Culvert

On 25th September 2021 , Togher Historical Association traveled to the Townland of Kilmurriheen to meet with local Oran O'Connell to learn about the local history of Togher's southernmost region. Lying in the R.C. Parish of Ballinhassig , the area nonetheless identifies as Togher with provenance being provided by the natives of the Townland. Kilmurriheen has one short through road which begins at Liberty Bridge and ends at Peggitty's Cross. The land stretches on one side right down to the Bandon Road ( just after Maxol garage ) and on the other to Knockalisheen. The group began their journey with Oran acting as guide throughout at Liberty Bridge which is listed on old OSi maps and one of the few named bridges in the Togher district as a whole. The stream which also takes the name of Liberty ( not to be confused with the Liberty stream which flows under Corcoran's Bridge ) rises not far from the bridge and flows under a specially constructed arched brick wall adjoined to the residence of the Neff family.


Liberty bridge at Kilmurriheen


Side view of bridge with Liberty stream


Arched brick wall of Neff family to rear of Liberty stream
 
 
The team then made their way to the end of the Townland at Peggity's Cross. Here they saw the now disused " Flapper " track used by coursing clubs back in the 1960s and 1970s. A Flapper track was an unofficial training ground which was used to test the speeds of dogs. The sheds in which the dogs were kept are still intact though the soft boggy ground in front of them is now heavily overgrown. Oran explained that further up the road there used to be a gate into the field. Contact was made with local Denis Bradfield who once worked for the Ordnance Survey. He explained that although the Townland was in a different Parish , it was was still very much part of Togher.


Peggity's Cross , Kilmurriheen as seen from outside Townland


Dog sheds as seen from roadside


Alternate view of dog sheds
 
 
Kathleen O'Keeffe
Togher Historical Association
Peggity's Cross , Kilmurriheen
 
 
Oran took the team through a whistlestop tour of the locality name checking all the landowners and residents in the Townland and even beyond. The townland was divided up on the left hand side moving away from Peggity's Cross towards Liberty Bridge between the O'Briens and the O'Learys. Land on the opposite side was partially owned by O'Carroll and Kingstons. He recalls working during the summer as a youth for a local farmer where he would assist in the daily milking of up to 400 dairy cows. He explained that his family originally hailed from Barracks St. until they moved to Greenwood Estate in 1980 for a short time before moving to Kilmurriheen in the mid 1980s. Several milk churn concrete rests were pointed out along the way. Oran explained that dairy farmers would use these to load and offload the heavy milk churns from carts and later lorries.


Milk churn rest in Kilmurriheen


Milk churn rest hidden in ditch


Oran explained that there was a group of 7 cottages built on private plots grouped together on the eastern side of the Townland all built between the mid 1970s and 1980s. His Parents still reside there. The rest of the various houses peppered around the Townland are the siblings of the various local Farmers. The team made a final stop off once more at Liberty Bridge. Here Oran mentioned that the old cottage was used as a stables/storeroom by the Kingstons who are renowned Holstein Cattle breeders. Another surprising discovery was made later on as the group moved away from Kilmurriheen when a house fronting onto the road displayed the title of a Townland - Gortagoulane! The only known instance of a Townland title being displayed on a house.

 
Old Kingston cottage near Liberty Bridge
 

Gortagoulane signage on house


The group eventually made their way to Togher Road to quickly take in the progress being made on the Culvert. Of particular interest was the gully near Greenwood Estate. The stream bed was now completely dry and devoid of water for the first time since the 1840s. An opportunity not to be missed presented itself with a surreal walk through of the gully. It is thought that there are plans to completely infill the dry gully which will see the arched bridge disappear underground forever never to be seen again. Another old bridge near the Community Centre has now been irretrievably lost. 2 videos shown below display the gully in its dry state and will in time become important historical mementos of a bygone age.


Culvert under construction towards Togher Cross
 
 
View of dry gully from entrance to Greenwood Est.

 
View of dry gully from Togher Road

 

Inside the gully looking back to the overhang slab
 
 
Inside the gully looking towards the arched bridge

 

Video inside the gully of the arched stone bridge
 
 
Video inside the gully showing the concrete overhang 

Saturday, August 14, 2021

Townlands - 08 / 15 - Lehenagh More

Leitheanach Mór - Wide Open Space - 1025 Acres
a.k.a. Big Meadow

 

Lehenaghmore - ( Data from Townlands.ie )

Coming in at well over a 1000 acres , Lehenaghmore is by far the largest of all the Townlands in Togher. Like its smaller sibling , Lehenagh Beg , its name is a convolution of misspelling and guesswork based on an incorrect anglization of the original Irish. Suffice it to say , it like its neighbour Lehenagh Beg , is a meadow , albeit , a larger variety. Historically , the Townland was owned by Milo de Cogan in 1177. By the time of the Cromwellian Confiscations of 1656 it was in the hands of George Gould ; following confiscation it passed to James Duke of York. In modern times , the Townland is most famous for being home to Cork Airport. It is also at 547ft the highest point in Togher and overlays a gigantic aquifer which feeds multiple streams issuing in all directions , the better known being the Glenmore , Liberty and Glasheen streams.

Corcorans Bridge


Historical interior names included Cumar na dTrí na nUisce ( the meeting of the three waters ) , three springs which go to form the Liberty stream a.k.a. Togher stream which flows under Corcorans Bridge and down to Togher Cross ; Cros na Gol ( the place of skulls ) , which was situated at the junction of Mathews Hill and Lehenaghmore Hill and from where funerals were followed on foot to the old graveyard below. It is believed an old Norman church existed next to the graveyard. Following development in later years cut limestone blocks were found but sadly removed from the site. During the Penal Laws of the 18th and 19th Centuries it was also known as Cros na Scoil owing to a hedge school being located there ; and Kilmahonach ( market town ) which during the 12th and 13th Centuries acted as a place of commerce before entering the City and which even minted its own coins. Big house names and lodges included Lehenaghmore House , Lehenagh House ( home of the brother of Fr. Mathew - see photo below ) ; Cruiskeen Lodge , Carrig Lodge , Cúl Álainn ( Coolallen ) and the Teampaleen ( an old graveyard adjacent to Norman church ). The Cork Bandon railway line once ran through the Townland with only a sole remaining bridge as a testament to its past. Agricultural land is now sandwiched between the built up region of the North and the Airport to the South. The section of road between Togher Cross and the old railway bridge has also been the educational hub of Togher since 1851 with the old cottage school ( demolished 1990s ) and the now Togher Community Centre ( Boys/Girls school 1891 - 1971 ) , Togher Girls School 1961 ( now Foróige/Togher A.C. ) and Togher Boys and Girls schools ( opened 1971 ). An honourable mention must be made of the Muintir na Tire who provided sterling support to the local community for many years. It was also during the 1980s home to the Doughcloyne Inn later Hotel ( now O'Connell Court retirement home ). Before the advent of dancehalls in the 1960s , platform dancing was a feature of Togher , and Togher Cross was the usual location for this form of entertainment. So from ancient medieval towns to old churches and graveyards and numerous schools , Lehenaghmore can lay claim to all. One other ghost from the past occupies the eastern side of Woulfe Lane and that is the remains of the Cottages and carriage houses of the old Lehenagh House which although thankfully still extant are in a ruinous state.

Fr. Matthew 1851
( Brother hailed from Togher )

Addresses ( Modern Era )

Togher Community Centre
Togher National Schools
Togher R.C. Church
Robinscourt ( portion of )
O'Connell Court Retirement Home
Whytes Centra
Togher Cross
Greenwood Estate
Palmbury Estate
Palmbury Orchard
Applegreen Service Station
VariousPrivate builds along Togher Road
Lehenaghmore Industrial Estate
Ashbrook Heights
Aisling Close
Alderbrook
Fernwood Crescent
Chestnut Drive
Lehenaghmore Park
East Avenue
West Avenue
The Mews
Laurel Lane
Brook Lane
Westgate Business Park
Various private builds along Mathew Hill
Manor Road
Saint Ambrose
The Gates
The Drive
The Lawn
Hill Lane
North Avenue
South Avenue
Ardross
Wolfe Avenue
Cookellure Lawn
Cookellure Rise
Cookellure Way
Cookellure Lane
Cookellure Grove
Cookellure Avenue
Cookellure Road
The Hamlet
Ardcahon Drive
Ardcahon Close
Ardcahon Way
Corcorans Bridge
Various private builds up towards bridge ( see map )
Redmonds G.A.A. club
Everton F.C. club
Marion House
Cork Airport ( including Terminals and majority of runways )
Farmers Cross
Old Kinsale Road ( loop portion over bridge )
Carrig Lodge Road
Pegasus Sculpture ( off Airport Road )


Addresses/Structures ( Historical Era )

Lehenaghmore House & Lodge ( demolished 1970s/80s )
Lehenagh House ( demolished )
All houses on Airport land ( demolished 1960s )
Corcorans Bridge ( still extant )
Norman Chapel ( believed to exist from 13th Century )
Teampaleen ( demolished late 1970s )
Kilmahonoch ( medieval market town )
Farmers Cross ( now roundabout to Airport )
Cros na Gol/Cros na Scoil ( Place of Skulls/hedge school )
Old Cottage School ( Demolished 1990s )
Muintir na Tire ( Demolished late 1980s )
Army Pill Box ( Demolished 1980s )
Platform Dancing ( primarily located at Togher Cross )
Woulfe Lane


Boundary


From a point begun approximately at the halfway point to the rear of Westside Estate and moving in an easterly direction and following the Tramore River before moving in a southerly direction around Greenwood Estate and Palmbury and around the Industrial Estate before crossing the road at the corner of O'Neills cottage and following a straight line eastwards before wrapping around Coolkellure and moving towards the rear of Lehenaghmore Park before joining the Glenmore River and moving again southwards before moving onto the Kinsale Road before doubling back onto the Lehenagh Ridge and the stream which rises there and then moving in a zigzag motion across the runway of Cork Airport before moving north around the apron and joining up with the Liberty Stream and following this watercourse down to Togher Cross before moving around Togher Cross and to the rear of the Church and Schools to join up once more at the point started from near Westside Estate.

Friday, July 16, 2021

Townlands - 07 / 15 - Lehenagh Beg

Leitheanach Beag  - Wide Open Space - 121 Acres
a.k.a. Small Meadow

Lehenagh Beg - 1947 OSi map


The problem with the naming convention of many Townlands in Togher and indeed their possible original Irish meaning is the phonetical spelling at the time of the Down Survey in 1656 and the separation of nearly 4 Centuries. Its actual meaning may be lost to history but locals from the last Century simply inferred that it like its bigger sibling was simply a meadow , albeit a smaller one. The Blog for simplicity's sake will use the Small Meadow and Big Meadow in describing the two Lehenagh Townlands. In 1301 it is known in the Irish Plea Rolls ( manuscripts kept by traveling Judges dealing with civil and criminal law cases during Medieval times ) as Lethnath ( so may have been part of its neighbour up until the early 17th Century when it may have been divided ) while the Down Survey of 1656 marks it as Lehenagh ; however in 1586 it was recorded as Lehennaghe and in 1706 as Leenagh but from the 1840s on it is standardized as Lehenaghbeg. Circa 1850s it becomes incorrectly Gaelicized as Leathanach Beag. 


Lehenagh Beg - ( Data from Townlands.ie )

Lehenagh Beg relies on 2 natural features for much of its boundary ( see end of article ) - The Glenmore River serves as its Eastern border while the Tramore River acts as its Northern border. This meadowland is bisected by Matthews Hill at its northern extremity which begins at Pouladuff Crossroads and carries over one of Togher's last remaining railway bridges ( under which the Cork Bandon railway line once ran ) which is known locally as Lehenaghbeg bridge and features an extremely rare benchmark inscribed into a block of limestone ( see photo below ) . The  Townland today is peppered with Industrial units but does still retain one or 2 old residences not least the O'Neill house which is characterized by its concrete patio fronting onto a sharp bend in the road. Another old structure though in a ruinous state is Hill Rest at the beginning of Matthews Hill which once overlooked the famous Celia's pub ( now long gone ). The Townland became part of the newly formed parish of Togher ( created by the Bishop of Cork ) in 1977 , coming from the old parish of St. Finbarrs West , like much of Togher , when that parish was formed in 1890. Hitherto it had been part of the old Civil Parish of St. Finbarrs. It has belonged to the Church of Ireland parish of Grange since 1838.

Lehenagh Beg railway bridge ( with benchmark )


O'Neill cottage , Matthews Hill , Lehenagh Beg
 
 
Historically , the townland was in the ownership of Richard Roch in 1641. However , following the Cromwellian Confiscations , by 1670 , it was now in the hands of James Lavallin. Today the Townland is made up predominantly of Sitecast Industrial Estate , Southside Industrial Estate and other units. However  following sale of land for development from the former Barrett/Geary owned farmland ; the new estate on the block , Manor Farm , is an ever expanding residential housing scheme in the Townland. Today , the Geary family are the sole remaining farmers. Ambrose Walsh, had a small farm across the road which extended most of the way back to lehenaghmore hill. Most of this was sold for the erection of industrial units with his family members securing small plots of land in which they still reside today in cottages.


Addresses ( Modern Era )


Manor Crescent
Farm Lawn
Farm Green
Brook Park
Brook Glen
Court Lawn East
Court Lawn West
Manor Road
Manor Village East
Manor Village West
Laharan Way
Laharan Green
Laharan East
Laharan West

Matthews Hill ( Various private builds )
Man made pond



Addresses/Structures ( Historical Era )


Gearys Farm ( formally Barretts Farm )( still present )
O'Neills cottage ( still present )
Lehenagh Beg railway bridge
( still present )
Hill Rest cottage ( derelict )
Tanning Yard ( demolished 1940s? )
Cork Bandon railway line ( removed )
Possible stone bridge behind Ideal Furniture store?
Pouladuff Crossroads


Boundary ( Shown in red on aerial photo )


From a point to the rear of Greenwood Estate following the Tramore River westwards to Pouladuff overpass and moving northwards down Pouladuff Road to Pouladuff Crossroads. Then following the Glenmore River northwards where it traverses the  curvature of the field system on its right and then folllowing a line back and around Coolkellure to Matthews Hill before bypassing O'Neill cottage before moving cross-country to the rear of Palmbury and Greenwood Estate to meet at the point started from by the Tramore River.


Boundary of Lehenagh Beg

Wednesday, June 9, 2021

Townlands - 06 / 15 - Deanrock

Carridiggainge - Sheltering Rock - 91 Acres
a.k.a. Deanrock ( see article below for more )

A natural rocky outcrop which was heavily quarried during the 19th Century and on which the current Deanrock Estate is sited.  


Deanrock - 1927 OSi map

Deanrock is unique amongst the Townlands of Togher in that it is the only Townland to have been rendered completely in English and also the only Townland to traverse the Togher Road. The Down Survey of 1656 - 1658 notes its name as Carridiggainge , an albeit corrupt interpretation of the original Irish which has been lost to the mists of time. However , scholars have declared that it can be deduced from the pronunciation that it could be loosely translated as Sheltering Rock. The term Dean Rock itself first came in to play circa 1841 following the reorganization of the Anglican Church in Ireland and was itself a corruption of the old Irish to fit a new narrative. The Tithe Applotment books of 1823-37 list the Townland as Carrigadranig so it proves that the renaming to Deanrock was relatively late in the Townlands history. The rocky outcrop such as it was in ancient times before being quarried lent its name to the entire Townland. ( It also had a nearby sibling in the form of the locally named " The Mountain " off Hazel Road. ) Due to heavy quarrying , the original rock formation was heavily depleted and by the 1940s , it was reduced to a series of bumps and hollows earning itself the famous name " The Heighties ". All that remains of this landmark following infilling by the landowner Hosford in the 1960s is " Devils Rock ".

Deanrock - Aerial map 1951

Much of her old buildings were demolished following compulsory purchase order in 1967: The Kerry Yard ( a compound of stone buildings complete with duck pond ) , Hosfords bungalow ,  Clashduff House , Bannons house , a lodge which lead to the Clashduff house , Deanrock house and all surrounding cottages , Ardmanning cottages ,  demolished in 1971 , Togher railway bridge 1976 , The Cuttings 1970s/1980s , Murphys cottage , circa 1980s. Plus numerous smaller holdings and stone walls.


Owenaccurra  Court also showing rear of Shounagh Lawn

Deanrock today is home to a mixture of the modern and historical and its ever changing landscape is testament to this.  To date , 3 structures which were erected during the developments of the 1960s and 1970s have been demolished. Owenacurra Court , part of the N.B.A. building scheme and built 1969 was finally demolished in 2007. 2 additional blocks of flats on Shournagh Lawn were also removed. Today the once vacant site is home to Toghers newest Estate , Shournagh Grove. Southside shopping centre and its anchor tenant Five Star which was completed in 1970 was demolished circa 2005 and now is home to Lidl. T.S.B. bank built late 1970s was demolished some years back and is now the site of Abbeyville Veterinary practice. Deanrock Terrace has seen much of its original cottages depleted over the years resulting in an odd mixture of private builds giving the terrace a disjointed appearance.

Denis Irwin displaying his sports memoribilia ( note the hurley! )
Photo
© Eddie O'Hare


Perhaps one of its most famous sons is the legendary Denis Irwin of Shournagh Lawn who played soccer for Manchester United and Republic of Ireland. A keen G.A.A. player in his early days he also excelled in chess. He attended Togher National School throughout the 1970s.


Deanrock - ( Data from Townlands.ie )

Addresses ( Modern Era )

 
Elm Road
Hazel Road ( Portion facing on to The Mountain )
Togher Road
( Corner of entrance to Sycamore Place to end of Overpass near Tramore River/Coffeys Field )
Rose Lawn
Clashduv Road ( Junction of Togher Road to Glasheen bridge )
Solas
Vicars Court
Vicars Road ( to end of Vicars Court )
Deanwood Avenue
Deanvale
Market Gardens
Clashduv Park ( portion of )
Abbeyville Veterinary Practice
Deanrock Avenue ( loop road )
Lough Credit Union
Shournagh Grove
Shournagh Lawn
Maglin Grove
Ilen Court
Blackwater Grove
Araglen Court
Leamlara Close
Owenabue Close
Argideen Lawn
Deanrock Terrace
Harley Wood
Deanrock Cottages
St. Finbarrs H&F Club
West Side Estate
Rock Bingo hall
Togher Overpass bridge
South Ring Road ( portion on western approach )

Addresses/Structures ( Historical Era )


The Mountain ( rocky outcrop off  Hazel Road )
The Heighties ( Quarry - present day Deanrock Estate )
The Kerry Yard ( Demolished )
Hosfords House ( Demolished )
Ardmanning Cottages ( Demolished )
Carmelville* ( Listed building )
Summerstown Lane ( gone )
The Bog ( portion of )
Deanrock House ( Demolished )
O'Donnell's Lane ( gone )
Mannings House ( Demolished )
Mannings Lane ( now Barrs Lane though has other local names )
Caravan Park ( now Harleywood )
Abbeyville House *( Still remaining )
Murphys cottage ( Demolished )
McCarthys cottage* ( Still remaining )
The Cutting ( Demolished )
Togher Railway bridge ( Demolished )


Boundary ( Shown in red on aerial photo )

Beginning at a point left of Rose Lawn and continuing through the rear gardens of same to cross Vicars Road and move in a line to the rear of Deanwood Avenue and around Market Gardens to take in the houses to the left of Leaca Ban and across Togher Road to follow a line alongside Deanrock Terrace to the corner of Deanrock Cottages and diagonally across to the Togher Overpass bridge to its end before turning into West Side estate and moving around its rear gardens before following a semi circular line across the South Ring Road and across St. Finbarrs G.A.A. grounds before meeting the Glasheen River and following it all the way back to the footbridge before moving across Clashduv Park in a diagonal line before crossing Clashduv Road to the bottom of Elm Road and traversing Hazel Road to move through the rear gardens of Togher Square to meet up at the point to the left of Rose Lawn.

Boundary of Deanrock

Wednesday, May 12, 2021

Townlands - 05 / 15 - Freagh & Vicars Acre

An Fraoch - The Place of Heather - 22 Acres
Vicars Acre -  ( Appended Mid 18th Century - see article below )


 Freagh & Vicars Acre - 1890 OSi Map


Freagh as mentioned above was a heathery bog almost devoid of trees due to its waterlogged state. It acquired its English appendage circa mid 18th Century during the Penal Laws and the reorganisation of the Anglican Church in Ireland. It is the only Townland in Togher to have both an Irish name and an English name. In more modern times Vicars is used to denote the road which passes through its northern section ( with bizarrely Vicars Court Estate lying inside Deanrock ). The Townland is host to the modern housing estate Sheridan Park off Tramore Road , Togher Garda Station , Youngline Shoe Company ( now defunct ) and South Cork Industrial Estate and other smaller units. In the past its southern fringes which bordered the Tramore River were used as an osiery , having the local name of the Well Field ( or Wella ) due to a natural spring which erupted nearby ( today it is capped and piped into the Tramore River ). Its eastern terminus is marked by Casey's Cross.


Freagh & Vicars Acre - Aerial map 1951


Some of its past residents include a Ms. Edwards , Sullivan's and Fitzgeralds. However its most famous resident is Joe Murphy , 1920s hunger striker , who dwelt in the house which carries his name , just before Lee Metals. He was posthumously awarded the Service (1917-1921) Medal with Bar by the Lord Mayor of Cork in respect of his service during the War of Independence after campaigning by his grandniece Shirley Kelleher and the Togher Historical Association , some 99 years after his death at a ceremony in Cork's City Hall attended by the Chief of Staff of the defence forces and his family on 9 May 2019. A memorial was erected on his house in 1960 by former comrades.


Joe Murphy 1895 - 1920
Freagh & Vicars Acre , Togher



In the past Hangdog Road traversed its territory ( now Tramore Road ) and the Cork Macroom Direct Railway ( now South Ring Road ). Both have been reconditioned over the last 50 years to upgrade them from a dirt track and disused railway line respectively. A portion of the nearby Tramore River serves as its southern boundary. A portion of the old osiery is still intact as wet scrubland adjacent to Coffey's Field.


Freagh & Vicars Acre - ( Data from Townlands.ie )



Addresses ( Modern Era )

Tramore Road ( section of houses adjacent to Garda Stn. )
Sheridan Park
Togher Garda Station
South Cork Industrial Estate
U.C.C. Park & Ride ( former Youngline )
Casey's Cross
 
 
Addresses/Structures ( Historical Era )


O'Sullivans
Caseys
Fitzgeralds
Murphys ( Joe Murphy House )
Delaneys
Edwards
Well Field
Cork Macroom Railway
Hangdog Road ( now Tramore Road )


Boundary ( shown in red on aerial photo )


From a point at Joe Murphy house on Pouladuff Road moving in a southerly direction towards Casey's Cross and over Pouladuff Overpass to meet with the Tramore River following its course westwards before turning north across the South Ring Road and Tramore Road before moving through the rear gardens of Sheridan Park before skirting the filling station on Vicars Road and moving diagonally until it ends at the rear garden of Joe Murphy house on Pouladuff Road.


Boundary of Freagh & Vicars Acre

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Deanrock